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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby wcaclimbing on Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:41 pm

Kap, I'll try to IM you sometime tomorrow. But I may forget, like I did today.
So if you see me online, send me something to remind me :roll:
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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby the.killing.44 on Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:43 pm

wcaclimbing wrote:But I may forget, like I did today.

See what happens when you forget? A certain something stops you from IMing him later ;) .
Anyways, I've chatted with wcac and we'll get the .psd ASAP.
gimil how is the whole re-authorizing (hehe that's a pun 8-[ ) thing gonna work?

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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby gho on Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:50 am

The Brig, Uri, Ticino are looks a bit confusing. Does Ticino border Uri? If not wouldnt it make the game a bit more interesting if they did? And does North East Switzerland really deserve the 5, or should it be 4 like the rest? I like the open style of this map, with lots of continent borders.
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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby pamoa on Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:15 am

Uri and Ticino do connect!
Sankt Gothard Pass is one of the major pass in Europe.
The control of this pass between northern Europe and Italy is one of the reason Switzerland was founded in 1291.
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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby wcaclimbing on Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:07 am

Ok. I have the PSD.
we're just waiting for gimil to get one of the admins to change the first post so I can edit it.
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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby the.killing.44 on Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:53 am

Yep, I got the XML done:
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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<map>         
   <title>Switzerland</title>
   <smallwidth>186</smallwidth>
   <smallheight>47</smallheight>
   <largewidth>233</largewidth>
   <largeheight>58</largeheight>
   <filetype>jpg</filetype>
<continent>
   <name>Northeast Switzerland</name>
   <bonus>5</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Aargau</territory>
      <territory>Appenzell</territory>
      <territory>Sankt Gallen</territory>
      <territory>Schaffhausen</territory>
      <territory>Thurgau</territory>
      <territory>Zug</territory>
    <territory>Zürich</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Inner Switzerland</name>
   <bonus>4</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Glarus</territory>
      <territory>Luzern</territory>
      <territory>Schwyz</territory>
      <territory>Unter-Walden</territory>
      <territory>Uri</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Graubunden</name>
   <bonus>2</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Chur</territory>
      <territory>Sankt Mortiz</territory>
      <territory>Scuol</territory>
      <territory>Ticino</territory>
      <territory>Thusis</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Bern Dominion</name>
   <bonus>4</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Basel</territory>
      <territory>Bern</territory>
      <territory>Bienne</territory>
      <territory>Brig</territory>
      <territory>Solothun</territory>
    <territory>Thun</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Romandie</name>
   <bonus>4</bonus>
   <components>
    <territory>Fribourg</territory>
      <territory>Genève</territory>
      <territory>Jura</territory>
      <territory>Lausanne</territory>
      <territory>Neuchâtel</territory>
      <territory>Sion</territory>
    <territory>Vaud</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<territory>
   <name>Aargau</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Basel</border>
   <border>Zug</border
   <border>Zürich</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
     <smallx>288</smallx>
     <smally>107</smally>
     <largex>361</largex>
     <largey>128</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Appenzell</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Sankt Gallen</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
     <smallx>426</smallx>
     <smally>132</smally>
     <largex>533</largex>
     <largey>160</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Basel</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Aargau</border>
   <border>Solothurn</border
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
     <smallx>232</smallx>
     <smally>102</smally>
     <largex>291</largex>
     <largey>122</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Bienne</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Bern</border>
   <border>Jura</border
   <border>Neuchâtel</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
     <smallx>172</smallx>
     <smally>155</smally>
     <largex>216</largex>
     <largey>188</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Bern</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Bienne</border>
   <border>Brig</border
   <border>Luzern</border>
     <border>Fribourg</border>
     <border>Thun</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
     <smallx>230</smallx>
     <smally>178</smally>
     <largex>288</largex>
     <largey>217</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Brig</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Bern</border>
   <border>Sion</border>
   <border>Ticino</border>
     <border>Uri</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
     <smallx>242</smallx>
     <smally>319</smally>
     <largex>303</largex>
     <largey>393</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Chur</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Sankt Gallen</border>
   <border>Sankt Mortiz</border
   <border>Scuol</border>
     <border>Thusis</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
     <smallx>462</smallx>
     <smally>196</smally>
     <largex>579</largex>
     <largey>240</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Chur</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Sankt Gallen</border>
   <border>Sankt Mortiz</border
   <border>Scuol</border>
     <border>Thusis</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
     <smallx>462</smallx>
     <smally>196</smally>
     <largex>579</largex>
     <largey>240</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Fribourg</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Bern</border>
   <border>Vaud</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>164</smallx>
   <smally>219</smally>
   <largex>206</largex>
   <largey>268</largey>   
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Genêve</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Vaud</border>
  </borders>
  <coordinates>
   <smallx>42</smallx>
   <smally>319</smally>
   <largex>54</largex>
   <largey>393</largey>   
  </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Glarus</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Sankt Gallen</border>
   <border>Schwyz</border
   <border>Uri</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>386</smallx>
   <smally>176</smally>
   <largex>484</largex>
   <largey>214</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Jura</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Bienne</border>
   <border>Neuchâtel</border
   <border>Solothurn</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>179</smallx>
   <smally>125</smally>
   <largex>225</largex>
   <largey>151</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Lausanne</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Vaud</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>105</smallx>
   <smally>268</smally>
   <largex>132</largex>
   <largey>330</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Luzern</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Bern</border>
   <border>Schwyz</border
   <border>Unter-Walden</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>280</smallx>
   <smally>159</smally>
   <largex>351</largex>
   <largey>193</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Neuchátel</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Bienne</border>
   <border>Jura</border
   <border>Vaud</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>138</smallx>
   <smally>173</smally>
   <largex>174</largex>
   <largey>211</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Sankt Gallen</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Appenzell</border>
   <border>Chur</border
   <border>Thurgau</border>
     <border>Zürich</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>392</smallx>
   <smally>137</smally>
   <largex>491</largex>
   <largey>166</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Sankt Mortiz</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Chur</border>
   <border>Scuol</border
   <border>Thusis</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>472</smallx>
   <smally>260</smally>
   <largex>591</largex>
   <largey>319</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Schaffhausen</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Thurgau</border>
   <border>Zürich</border
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>337</smallx>
   <smally>60</smally>
   <largex>422</largex>
   <largey>70</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Schwyz</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Glarus</border>
   <border>Luzern</border
   <border>Sankt Gallen</border>
   <border>Unter-Walden</border>
   <border>Uri</border>
   <border>Zug</border>
   <border>Zürich
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>364</smallx>
   <smally>166</smally>
   <largex>456</largex>
   <largey>202</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Scuol</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Chur</border>
   <border>Sankt Mortiz</border
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>492</smallx>
   <smally>237</smally>
   <largex>616</largex>
   <largey>291</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Sion</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Brig</border>
   <border>Vaud</border
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>182</smallx>
   <smally>345</smally>
   <largex>228</largex>
   <largey>426</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Solothurn</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Basel</border>
   <border>Bienne</border
   <border>Jura</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>215</smallx>
   <smally>115</smally>
   <largex>270</largex>
   <largey>138</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Thun</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Bern</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>225</smallx>
   <smally>181</smally>
   <largex>282</largex>
   <largey>221</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Thurgau</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Sankt Gallen</border>
   <border>Schaffhausen</border
   <border>Zürich</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>416</smallx>
   <smally>84</smally>
   <largex>521</largex>
   <largey>100</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Thusis</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Chur</border>
   <border>Sankt Mortiz</border
   <border>Ticino</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>417</smallx>
   <smally>251</smally>
   <largex>522</largex>
   <largey>308</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Ticino</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Brig</border>
   <border>Thusis</border
   <border>Uri</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>360</smallx>
   <smally>308</smally>
   <largex>451</largex>
   <largey>379</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Unter-Walden</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Luzern</border>
   <border>Schwyz</border
   <border>Uri</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>315</smallx>
   <smally>190</smally>
   <largex>395</largex>
   <largey>232</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Uri</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Glarus</border>
   <border>Schwyz</border
   <border>Ticino</border>
   <border>Unter-Walden</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>334</smallx>
   <smally>219</smally>
   <largex>418</largex>
   <largey>268</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Vaud</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Fribourg</border>
   <border>Genève</border
   <border>Lusanne</border>
   <border>Neuchâtel</border>
   <border>Sion</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>114</smallx>
      <smally>227</smally>
      <largex>144</largex>
      <largey>278</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Zug</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Aargau</border>
   <border>Zürich</border
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>334</smallx>
   <smally>162</smally>
   <largex>419</largex>
   <largey>197</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Zürich</name>
   <borders>
     <border>Aargau</border>
   <border>Sankt Gallen</border>
   <border>Schaffhausen</border>
   <border>Thurgau</border>
   <border>Zug</border>
  </borders>
   <coordinates>
   <smallx>342</smallx>
   <smally>120</smally>
   <largex>428</largex>
   <largey>145</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
</map>


A rough to-do list for us tomorrow:
  • move some borders around
  • move some names around (this and ^ are to accomodate 100s mostly)
  • clarify Thurgau-Scheffhausen connection
  • clarify Bienne-Bern connection
  • get rid of mt. dots
  • extend Vaud mts. a bit North
  • change "North-East Switzerland" to "Northeast …"
We'll be keeping the main style of graphics (so gimil doesn't have to slaughter us 8-[ )

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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby pamoa on Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:34 am

the.killing.44 wrote:... extend Vaud mts. a bit North...


please don't do so it would be geographically incorrect

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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby RjBeals on Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:34 am

That image is so beautiful as it is. We should just quench that!
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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby pamoa on Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:46 am

you can't it's copyrighted by goggle
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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby gimil on Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:46 pm

Guys, jsut my opinion but....

You have teh gameplay stamp for this map and it is close to being graphics stamped. I know pamoa you want the map to be as geographically accurate as possible. However it seems that Swiss geography balances the map to less favourable gameplay. It may not be perfect but I suggest we go with what we have and try and get this moving to the forge. Kap has earned it with this map and it is unfair how long we has been sitting here.
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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby pamoa on Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:37 am

As it is for is fine but not with more mountain in the north...
and btw the geography is not very accurate as the river design is a bit invented.
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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby gimil on Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:12 am

pamoa wrote:As it is for is fine but not with more mountain in the north...
and btw the geography is not very accurate as the river design is a bit invented.


Pamoa I think we are going to have to sacrafice for geographic accuracy for the sake of the gameplay and getting this map finished. Unless the geography can be changed without messing the gameplay.
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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby wcaclimbing on Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:34 pm

I'm gonna get this moving in a few days.
I'm figuring out Kap's PSD right now, learning how he did stuff.
Shouldn't take too long.
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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby wcaclimbing on Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:21 pm

I'm cleaning up the graphics a bit. Its still the same map, no major changes, just making things more visible and a bit easier to understand.

to-do list
1. change mountains.
2. change river.
3. fix all the confusing borders.

I'll try to get an update out tomorrow night.
But you guys know how updates go with maps I create. So maybe it'll be the next day or the day after.
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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby wcaclimbing on Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:19 pm

Here's a bit of an update.
I cleaned up parts of the map that were bugging me, I think its a bit easier to read now.

THE MOUNTAINS AND THE RIVER ARE NOT SHOWN ON THIS VERSION. I'M JUST POSTING IT TO SEE IF YOU GUYS ARE OK WITH WHAT I'VE DONE SO FAR. THE MOUNTAINS AND RIVER WILL BE PUT BACK LATER (and they will look better)
^because I know someone is going to post asking why there aren't any mountains^

here's my image:
EDIT: I just realized that none of my territory names are centered above the glow that is supposed to be behind them. oops :oops:
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and here's Kap's original to compare mine with.
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So what do you guys think?
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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby the.killing.44 on Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:20 pm

Where are the mountains?

:P

In all seriousness, I'm gonna chat with you

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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby Kaplowitz on Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:22 pm

It looks really nice and clean!
Personally I dont like the font and the bright text with the darkish map, but thats really just a personal thing and i dont care what u guys do to it...

gl!
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Re: Switzerland v43--Novemer 21--PAGE 1+37 [D,GP]

Postby ZeakCytho on Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:24 pm

Looks amazing, wca. Keep up the good work!
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Re: Switzerland v44--January 26--PAGE 1+40 [D,GP]

Postby pamoa on Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:58 am

some spelling mistakes

Bern Dominion
Graubünden

Schaffausen
Uri
Scuol
Sankt Moritz
Sion
De gueules à la tour d'argent ouverte, crénelée de trois pièces, sommée d'un donjon ajouré, crénelé de deux pièces
Gules an open tower silver, crenellated three parts, topped by a apertured turret, crenellated two parts
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Re: Switzerland v44--January 26--PAGE 1+40 [D,GP]

Postby wcaclimbing on Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:37 pm

pamoa wrote:some spelling mistakes

Bern Dominion
Graubünden

Schaffausen
Uri
Scuol
Sankt Moritz
Sion


Thanks. I'll get those fixed in the next update.
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Re: Switzerland v44--January 26--PAGE 1+40 [D,GP]

Postby abel on Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:20 pm

Nice map.

I was hoping to make a Switzerland map. You beat me to it. :oops: I may try to develop another that incorporates Switzerland as a significant theme. I'm looking forward to playing yours in the meantime.
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Re: Switzerland v44--January 26--PAGE 1+40 [D,GP]

Postby wcaclimbing on Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:39 am

I think I'll have an update tomorrow.
I got the mountains and all the spelling mistakes done, now I just have the river to do.
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Re: Switzerland v44--January 26--PAGE 1+40 [D,GP]

Postby pamoa on Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:36 am

wcaclimbing wrote:I think I'll have an update tomorrow.
I got the mountains and all the spelling mistakes done, now I just have the river to do.

If you redraw it, please make the left branch come out from the north east end of the lake not the middle it would be more accurate
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Re: Switzerland v44--January 26--PAGE 1+40 [D,GP]

Postby gimil on Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:11 am

Whats the latest wca?
What do you know about map making, bitch?

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Re: Switzerland v44--January 26--PAGE 1+40 [D,GP]

Postby wcaclimbing on Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:47 am

gimil wrote:Whats the latest wca?


School is keeping me busy with homework.
I think I'll have time to work on it tonight.
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