[Abandoned] - Europe 1099 - The 1st Crusade

by **miniwally** on Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:00 am

don't do anything with sahara desert i didn't hear about soldiers marching through that to get to 'holy lands'

by **Teflon Kris** on Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:45 am

Regarding the Saraha, I was meaning background/shading wise, not suggesting an extra territory or anything. Looking again, I think it may benefit from removing the border along the bottom of the map - then it would be consistent with the north-east of the map and just be clearer that it extends beyond the edge of the map?

Minor point but probaby related to other minor point above.

by **Beko the Great** on Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:54 am

DJ Teflon wrote:Regarding the Saraha, I was meaning background/shading wise, not suggesting an extra territory or anything. Looking again, I think it may benefit from removing the border along the bottom of the map - then it would be consistent with the north-east of the map and just be clearer that it extends beyond the edge of the map?

Minor point but probaby related to other minor point above.

Yeah. I guess you're right
I think I'll extent lybia and Al-Inskandaria territories 'till the end of the map... Just to be consistent as you say

Cheers! And thank you for all the sugestions:)

by **ustus** on Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:26 pm

i find the continent legend rather hard to read. could you possibly outline the boxes in the legend with the same lines you used for the borders so they look more like the terits they represent?

by **Teflon Kris** on Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:24 pm

Are the bonus bonus partly transparent? Reducing transparency as well as outlining and may be an idea?

The great thing about this map is that the overall style really fits the era.

by **miniwally** on Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:13 am

are castille to al-gharb one way attacks i don't think they should be

by **thenobodies80** on Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:17 pm

this map is very good.
Only a little thing...Is possible a different graphic for routes?
Good work you are on the right way!

by **barterer2002** on Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:40 pm

The anchors are better in this version but for instance, the Normandy anchor is unclear that it goes with Normandy. Perhaps if they connect the tert with the water it would be better.

by **Aline_Cedrac** on Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:41 pm

:O Now that miniwally notices...I think there's an extra arrow near the shield in Castilla? Shouldn't only be there ONE single arrow to indicate that from Castilla to Cordoba it is 'one way attack' ? I can see two, but I don't know what the other is for... :oops:

Please, enlighten us, dear Beko The Great!

by **ustus** on Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:26 pm

i think the third arrow is there becuase it looks nicer with three evenly distrubuted arrows than with two. not for any functional purpose. and I agree, it does.

by **Teflon Kris** on Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:15 am

I agree - the extra arrow is surely aesthetic.

by **miniwally** on Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:19 am

i just meant are they actually one way attacks

said wrong territory name but i did notice the extra arrow :?:

by **Beko the Great** on Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:37 am

thenobodies80 wrote:this map is very good.
Only a little thing...Is possible a different graphic for routes?
Good work you are on the right way!

What would you like to be changed in atack routes?

barterer2002 wrote:The anchors are better in this version but for instance, the Normandy anchor is unclear that it goes with Normandy. Perhaps if they connect the tert with the water it would be better.

A thing I can change.

About the whole arrows issue I think the territory connections are clear as the one-way attacks are too. However a shape change is not bad thought.

Cheers! I'll be working on this maybe tomorrow. I've been kinda busy the last few days.

by **rjz115dude** on Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:06 pm

WOW...first impression this is a really good map but i feel that their aren't enough territories or differences in bonuses. It looks really good, but there aren't any differneces between bonuses. If you could make another map with some more terretories this map would be perfect

by **Beko the Great** on Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:07 pm

rjz115dude wrote:WOW...first impression this is a really good map but i feel that their aren't enough territories or differences in bonuses. It looks really good, but there aren't any differneces between bonuses. If you could make another map with some more terretories this map would be perfect

Well, there are diferent sizes for CC maps, this one is not that small. For example in a 4 player game, each player starts with 15 territories, which I consider, very reasonable. Besides that, the regions are those more coerent with the historical/geographical ones. Cheers!

by **Beko the Great** on Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:19 pm

Ok! Here it is V7!

Changes made:
- Down Left Corner changed so everything is coherent.
- Made Small Map!

Large Map:

Click image to enlarge.

Small Map:

Keep "feedbacking" :mrgreen:

by **miniwally** on Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:56 pm

what would you prefer we discuss graphics or gameplay?

by **Aline_Cedrac** on Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:04 pm

Wow! It's really perfect, I dare saying! And the arrows, I see now, they are merely aesthetic!
I would really feel like a crusadier if I played on this map...! Forward! You have my total support, as you already know! :oops:

by **Beko the Great** on Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:06 pm

miniwally wrote:what would you prefer we discuss graphics or gameplay?

Anything you think must be better, please say. About gameplay I think things are virtualy decided, but any new idea would be always wellcome

Aline_Cedrac wrote:Wow! It's really perfect, I dare saying! And the arrows, I see now, they are merely aesthetic!
I would really feel like a crusadier if I played on this map...! Forward! You have my total support, as you already know!

Thank you for your support since the begining of this

. And it's not perfect, I think, but heading way there for sure.

by **aequitas08** on Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:25 pm

hmm... maybe the picture didn't load right but i don't see shields on the small map, otherwise it looks good. i look forward to playing on this map someday.

by **miniwally** on Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:21 am

good point and i can't think of anything else to make it better

by **Beko the Great** on Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:07 am

aequitas08 wrote:hmm... maybe the picture didn't load right but i don't see shields on the small map, otherwise it looks good. i look forward to playing on this map someday.

Thanks for notice that... It's fixed!

by **Balsiefen** on Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:20 am

I love this map, cant believe I've kept on missing it.

Graphically, its a little hard to tell which territory the shields at paris and lorraine and the port at normandy are on.

Also the legend on the small map is a little hard to read.